Saturday, February 19, 2011

Lake Erie Presbytery Voted On Ordination Standards Today

At its stated meeting today, the Presbytery of Lake Erie voted against changing the current ordination standards by 44-36. One person each (both were elders) gave the main presentations for or against the change. The person speaking for the change was more effective than her counterpart. She certainly connected better with the commissioners. The elder speaking against the change was, to my mind, rather dry and negative (and I agreed with his position, so I am not being biased against him).

After that, speakers could comment from the floor, in alternating order (pro and con). There was a two minute limit for each comment (although it was not strictly enforced). I think everyone who wanted to speak was heard. The arguments on both sides varied in quality.

The vote was significantly closer this time than the last time Lake Erie voted. In 2009, the vote was 59-32 against changing the Constitution in this way. As mentioned, the vote was 44-36 this time. This matches the national trend of both a higher proportion of people in favor of changing the ordination standards, AND fewer people bothering to vote, period.

In Lake Erie, I don't expect many, if any, minds were changed from the last time we voted, but several ministers and elders who would have voted "no" were either absent, or had since transfered to another Presbytery (in the case of ministers).

It seemed to me like relationships were maintained pretty well. Some folks I like were on the other side. I don't think that has changed.

I am glad for these good relationships across these lines. Whether they will be enough to keep us unified as a denomination is much less certain. While people on both sides say they want the controversy to go away, no one is willing to give way.

After the results were announced, our General Presbyter delivered remarks that stressed the possibility of reconciliation and unity. He was rewarded by applause at the end. I think people on both sides want to stay in relationship with one another in our Presbytery. But again, is that sufficient to keep us united as a single church?

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